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world. >> exercising his veto the president uses his veto power for the first time to strike down the bipartisan move to block his declaration of a national emergency of a southern border. can congress muster the votes for an override? a top north korean official may stop talking with united states about nuclear weapons and hints at the possibility of new missile tests. there's a new crisis brewing. you're in the situation room. the terror attack where the mosques were full of worshippers. the gunmen live stream online and white supremacist manifesto.
it is in the a rising threat around the world. his remarks came as he used his presidential veto for the first time to strike down legislation of a national emergency on the southern border. let's begin in new zealand and go straight to will ripley. update us on the very latest. >> in the coming hours the man accused of going on this shooting rampage will face a judge in court and there are so many questions about his mote vase after police discovered that filled with hate filled
idealology. tonight they are grappling with a new reality of perhaps a surging white supremist subculture that has spewed out into the public. >> police say the gunman opened fire shortly before 2:00 in the afternoon targeting two mosques as friday prayers were beginning. the assault was relentless. the killer at times leaving the mosque to retrieve a second gun and fire into the street before returning to continue the carnage leaving more than 40 dead. >> something like this could happen in new zealand.
the killer may have drifr ton a second mosque act three miles away opening fire and killing at least seven more. tonight the 28-year-old man is under arrest. it is explosives and covered in white supremist graffiti. they call it a terror attack and one of new zealand's darkest days. >> these are people i would describe as having extremist views and have no place in the world. >> police found an 87 page manifesto filled with anti-muslim ideas just before the attack unfolded. a 17 minute video purported to be a live stream taken from a body camera and went viral on social media.
cnn is not showing the video and police strongly urge the public not to share it as web sites skralable to take it down. >> we are shocked. we are appalled. we are outraged. this attack remains us of the evil that is ever present and would seek to strike out at any time. >> tonight police in major american cities are at a state of heightened alert. increased security staged as it around the world stepped up places as they urge nonmuslims to sh two police trying to figure out what role, if any they played in that attack.
>> thanks so much. we are getting details on the hate filled manifesto. let's bring in alex. what are you learning? >> it is almost 100 pages of pure toxic rage. the title is the great replacement. >> more than 16,000 words that the 28-year-old that says his name is posted on social media shortly before the attack. they call immigrants invaders and says immigration must be crushed and like other white nationalists he falsely dlamed
there's a generocide of people. >> it's the kinds of toxic messag from roof. tlaez people i would describe as having extremist views that have absolutely no place in new zealand and in fact have no place in the yorlworld. >> calling president trump a symbol of renewed white identity. he doesn't consider trump a leader. he decided to carry out the shooting which he admits is terrorism on his own.
he engs presses no remorse for those he planned to kill even the children the gunman points to a number of global events that fuelled his hate including a terror attack in sweden's capital in 2017. >> as for the choice of the deadly weapons used the attacker said it was used for the debate used in this country to fan the flames and deepen the divisions over the second amendment. >> so awful. thank you. president trump has voiced his condolences but down played the threat. let's go to jim accosta.
the president said to reporters a short while ago he doesn't believe white nationalism is a rising threat despite signs that it is a rising danger. the president turned a veto into the day's main event reject that rebuked mr. trump for trying to use a national emergency declaration to build border wall. >> congress has the freedom to pass this resolution. i have the duty to veto it. >> the president sounded off on the mosque terror attack in new
zealand. he tweeted my warmest tli go tout the people after the horrible massacre. >> i don't really. i think it's a small group of people that have very very serious problems. i guess if you look at what happened in new zealand i don't know a enough about it yet. they are learning about the person and the people involved. it's certainly a terrible thing. calling far total and complete shutdown until our companies representatives can figure out what is going on.
they added that a tax like the one in new zealand are all too common. >> on the rise around the western world. they are on the rise right here in the country. they mart of a larger diseaseover init widisease of intolerant. >> before the attack they say the killer wrote a long manifest o even describing the president as a symbol of white identity and common purpose.
he bragged about a support coming from tough people saying i can tell you i have the support of the police. the sprt of the military an bikers for trump. they don't play it tough until they go to a certain point and then it would be very bad, very bad. democrats say the president is playing with fire. i interpret it as a dangerous peaceful transition. it's one of the fundamental principles that we have that kind of peaceful comment. >> the president satd he hadn't read the manifesto. he may want to consider fbi figures showing white wring extremism is a concern on the
streets of charlottesville to the shooting in pittsburgh now the mosque attack in new zealand. it is a threat that cannot be denied. >> all right. thanks very much thaps for joining us. gelt the president satd he doesn't believe it is a rising threat around the world. how do you see it? >> it is another tlt the president doesn't pay attention facts. after 9/11 president bush went to mosques and went to see the muslims. hate crimes against muslims dropped. as he talks about a muslim ban we know hate crimes against muslims have gone up. are you listening? do you have any idea that your
words truly matter? as he continues to act as though this is not a problem why is it that as a result of what happened in new zealand is fos mosques are under that in i know if i had a chance to talk to her and i expressed my deepest condolences with her. we shared the concerns we both have about this kind of white supremacist terrorism that is on the rise. several kreegs, do you agree? >> i think the kinds of language just add a fuel to the fire.
and so for him to take absolutely no responsibility for the continuing divisive and kind of language that he uses is a testament to the fact that we have a president that doesn't care. he was going out of his way. there could be serious problems down the road. what did you think of that? >> i thought of that as being appalling language. it seemed to be for people to take matters sba their own hands and commit violence. that's what it sounded like to me. that's the kind of threat and language he likes to use. to he thinks that our military
is so undisciplined but it shows us where he is at ch particularly against immigrants, snerts, goens. >> he just issued the first veto so what comes next? >> let me just say beginning that he hasn't had to do that because up to now he said the republicans in the house and senate totally compliant to him. we are at least seeing signs of the republican in the senate behaving as though they believe they are separate branch of
government we know there is litigation. we know if the courts that if they let this president go ahead with emergency declaration when there is no emergency we are opening the flood gates for anything to be called an emergency. i hope that everybody realizes in order for him to make good he is going to grab terror rised programs that the congress has enacted. he will grab billions and billions from programs and military construction thanks for
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nationalism as a rising threat. let's bring in now he's a former fbi supervise roy specii specia. the answer to your question is yes. the movement is on the rise. also in europe the white supremacist movement is on the rise. between 2016 and 2017 the number of of killings associated with white supreme si doubled. from 2017 to 2018 it went up 35%. they went up 88% in 2018.
it went up 60%. so this is a global problem. everything that happened and the islamists terrorist groups. >> it is really worrysome. it is given the fbi's own statistics which you studied very closely. >> the idea that we obviously have the oklahoma city tax coming out of the far right killed 186 people. if you look at the figures since 9/11 they have killed almost as many people in the united states as jihadi terrorists. look at the rise of parties in
europe. they used to be very marginal. but it is now a very powerful politician in france. so the whole environment is not just simply white nationalist violent extremists has become much more sympatheticic. sympathetici >> when it comes to the federal government, no, it's not priority and not listed in any national priorities for homeland security or for countering terrorism domestically.
nobody in congress or state department at the time wanted to basically pay attention to the rise of al qaeda or movement. today.k we see some similarities no. it's in the a strategic priority unlike europe for example, unlike the u.k. now they deal with it in a very similar way. it is in an identical way to the way they deal with islamic
extremists. all of our security apparatus is still focused on dealing with islamic type of extremism but not with white supreme si. >> is that your assessment as well? >> i mean there is a terrorism and two is credit in that strategy. they did call out nazi groups. i would say that the fbi has been aware that this is an issue far long time. the fbi doesn't care if your a white supremacist or jihadist. if you're going out murdering people they have a strong interest in trying to find you. we have seen black nationalists killed eight people in the country for the last couple of years. we have seen more political violence and a little from the left. but from an fbi point of view
these are all yiems they want to prevent or solve if they have already happened. >> how does someone like this terrorist in new zealand get so radicalized that he would do what he did today? >> well, you know, basically from reading the manifesto you read a lot about revenge and by meeting other guys who adhere to this narrative he has heros that he believes that they are -- they provide a solution to a more purer society.
we see a lot of similarities with the social movement and social media. we see a lot of similarities that the fact that violence is the only key in order to create a pure society. we see over lapping of, you know, cooperation between these different groups on a global level. i think now more and more to build on what peter said about the alternationalism in europe and european politics what we start seeing is these extremist groups trying to blend in taking advantage of the political and the social and the cultural divide in order to first make themselves more cell vant and second to make themselves more mainstream. these kind of issues that we have seen happening before with the groups like isis and sal al
qaeda seems to like the murder in new zealand. >> it's an important point indeed. it was entitled the great replacement. i read the whole thing. the word replacement, we remember the white supremacists were saying jews will not replace us. it has taken on the word replacement a new meaning. they have been radicalized to a certain degree by that. >> you know, usually these guys, we don't know if they had a support network or not. the point is he is that manifesto. he tried come communism. he is sort of a loser. she looking for an idealology to carry out the violent attack.
that is kind of the typical profile we see. that's what this guy was. he was looking for this idealology and ended up with militant white nationalism but he was shopping around. >> an awful situation. thanks very much for joining us. this is a story we'll continue to watch. there's more news we are following as well. the russia investigation may be winding down. it is not ready to have former manafort deputy rick gates sentenced noting he is still cooperating with federal authorities. you're in the situation room. hey, want to try it? ok here you go... over... under... hey whoa, pop, pop... your shoe's untied. ♪ ensure he's well taken care of, even as you build your own plans for retirement. see how lincoln can help protect your savings from the impact
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>> also today we got a new sign that even though the mueller investigation seems to be winding down the special counsel still isn't ready to have a key cooperating witness. pamela brown has been looking into this joining us with our political and legal experts. mueller says that he is not yet ready to go ahead and sentence rick gates because he is provided important information with federal authorities. this is the fifth time robert
mueller asked to delay gates. it tells you gates is still providing useful information. whether that's robert mueller's office or prosecutors or other prosecutors from another office that's unclear. it shows it is wrapping up, wolf. he would be cooperating because he played a key role and our reporting is they have been investigating the committee. >> he says that gates is continuing to cooperate with respect to several ongoing investigations. >> right. so we don't flow what those informations are.
they felt like he hadn't been forthcoming with him. to some extent he is in a position to stand in manafort's shoes and tell them a little bit about that story. the other thing is after sentencing will be able to tell hiss own story. they should never be a russia mueller report. the two seemed to be so out of touch right now. the president on the one hand and entire house of representatives on the other. >> first of all let me say this about the president tweeting that. did he not think that there
should have been an investigation into russian medding in the election. does he think that's a joke that the united states shouldn't investigate? that is what mueller is investigating. the president believes he is investigating him. he is investigating something much larger. as to the unanimous vote in the house i thought it was kind of surprising. i think what republicans are saying is they don't want information to be kept from the public. just pick out what they think is important and that they want to be able to have the opportunity to say you know what? we think this part of this report is really important and present it themselves to the american public. you're going to have a battle going on there depending on how much you get. the notion coming from the president of the united states that he's not interested in finding out what bob mueller knows after all of these russian indictments after russian hacking as another election is
coming up is kind of stunning. >> it was an illegal and conflicted investigation in search of a crime. it sounds to me like he is pretty nervous what mueller has come up with. >> and we doe know that the american public doesn't agree on this. there is a very large appetite to see the mueller report. i want to go back to what pamela said and bl or not gates cooperation means that the mueller report isn't necessarily wrapping up. i think regardless of the timing a lot of special white collar prosecutors that have worked with mueller in the past say mueller views this investigation more as an investigative exercise. so i'm really interested to see how the investigation into the inaugural committee is developing and what gates is providing. it can open up an entirely new
chapter. it shines a lot of light on the relationships that have been a little bit suspicious with foreign entities. the court said they needed at least another 60 days to determine the sentencing of rick gates that there's not going to be a final report at least for another 60 days. >> i don't she we could conclude that. he could be helping out from different offices. by all indications our reporting i believe he reported that he could announce very soon he received the confidential report. it doesn't mean he won't turn it over before that. >> do you agree? >> yeah. i think that's right. we have sort of circumstantial evidence there is a lot more and
including the departure of key individuals. also the senior fbi official ton case did the sort of doj insiders. >> we have been hearing that. i thought it was going to happen before now. >> look, i think it was lacking. i think the president saying that there's not an increase in white supremacists, that's a small group. i was looking at numbers from the anti defamation league which has been tracking white
supremacist indents. there was 182 increase from 2017 to 2018. how can you say it's just a small group of der ranged people. it is der ranged people. how can you sort of dismiss it ben you're starring it right in the face. >> when he says he doesn't think there's a threat here he's going against u.s. law enforcement, our international allies. let's be honest here it's not that he doesn't just like he doesn't actually believe the russians had nothing to do with that and he doesn't believe he knew nogt about the murder. once again we see the president intelligence i think it shows us that the president is afraid of with a strong condemnation of white nationalism and racism. i think it speaks volumes. >> because the reaction has
already been intense to what the president said today. he doesn't see a rising threat. >> this is a pattern of behavior from charlottesville to today. i can't help but view the great contrast between the new zealand prime minister. the moral clarity saying that these white supremacists, this extremism does not belong here. they are not our people. they do not belong any where in the world. the administration has done things in order to turn a blind eye to the growing domestic terrorism going on in america. they have gotten rid of the grants and there vab series of events that don't add up here. >> it's not just the failure to strongly condemn. immediately after condemning thooz attacks he referred to the
southern border as an invasion. it is the shooter here. even though he has been warned about the consequences he continueses to use it in the same breath he is expressing. >> it's not what we are seeing play out. we have a reporting that the uptake in domestic terror there were 900 open. time and time again even comments made, those comments he acted like he was unaware of them an didn't take it as an opportunity to denounce. these acts of terror once again, he is not using it as an opportunity to be a moral leader. and he has no problem calling out things when it is politically expedient for him. he has no problem saying well, democrats hate jews.
okay. so what about your own party and your own believes? why didn't you speak with that sort of moral force there? >> why is he according to his critics tone deaf in. >> because it is who he is. those of us that have been writing and talking about him. >> you know, he does know what pushing peoples buttons. it's not so much i agree with you, it may be political. >> i is but i also think it's about donald trump. it's about donald trump equivocating. good people on both sides not wants to talk a stand against white supreme si. i remember there were questions about david duke.
it was jake asking him and some point he said who is that? i just think this is, you know, this is donald trump. maybe it's uninformed. maybe it's political but why are we surprised by it? >> i want to say i do think this is really important. regardless of what he believes the president needs to understand it ma it's a sizes. >> and that's lot more recovering right now including other important news. north korea threatening to resume missile testing and they are blaming the united states. ♪ ♪ just hold on, i'm comin' ♪ hold on, i'm comin' ♪ hold on ♪ don't you worry, i'm comin' ♪ here i come so...how many credit cards did i have after business school? six? yeah...that interest rate was crazy. good thing i got a loan to pay them off faster.
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a top north korean official hinted that negotiators may stop talking with the united states about the nuclear weapons program. barbara starr reports. >> reporter: president trump's top two north korean advisers say the regime is wrong, they are not sabotaging nuclear talks with pyongyang. secretary of state mike pompeo responding to comments from kim jong-un's deputy foreign minister suggesting weapons testing could now resume after the failed hanoi summit. >> i can say only this. in hanoi on multiple occasions, he spoke directly to the president and made a commitment that he would not resume nuclear testing, nor would he resume missile testing.
>> reporter: north korea today appeared to threaten to walk away from denuclearization talks when the deputy foreign minister told reporters that the american delegation at the failed hanoi summit was too demanding and inflexible, claiming the u.s. team were too busy with pursuing their own political interests and had no sincere intention to achieve a result. national security adviser john bolton rejecting the north korean claim. >> i think that's inaccurate. the president is our decision maker. >> military intelligence analysts say despite commercial satellite imagery showing some reconstruction activity at a satellite launch facility, for now, there are no imminent signs of launches or testing. north korea may simply be continuing to try to divide u.s. negotiators and pressure president trump to loosen sanctions, a proposal kim
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crime that shocked the world. tonight, new information about the accused gunman and his extremist views. not a problem. president trump asked about the suspect's supremacist beliefs, denies white nationalism is a threat around the world. blaming instead a small group of people. why did the suspect reference mr. trump in his hate-filled manifesto? still cooperating. robert mueller asked for rick gates' sentencing to be postponed again, saying the former manafort partner is still cooperating and helping several ongoing investigations. what does it reveal about the russia probe? veto. president trump makes good on his promise and rejects the bipartisan resolution blocking his national emergency declaration, issuing first veto of his presidency. now it appears the courts will decide if the president went too far. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and